{"id":12315,"date":"2023-08-10T13:44:09","date_gmt":"2023-08-10T13:44:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/?p=12315"},"modified":"2023-08-10T14:31:07","modified_gmt":"2023-08-10T14:31:07","slug":"stories-from-ukraine-1-natalya","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/fr\/stories-from-ukraine-1-natalya\/","title":{"rendered":"Histoires d&#039;Ukraine #1 : Natalya"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Cet article a \u00e9t\u00e9 r\u00e9dig\u00e9 par Joana Purves, Thomas Leroux et Emma Santanach.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover is-light\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background-dim-30 has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-12333\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1.jpg\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-350x196.jpg 350w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-600x338.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-white-color has-text-color has-large-font-size\"><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans le cadre du projet europ\u00e9en \u00ab Ukraine Now \u00bb, qui attire l&#039;attention sur la situation des personnes fuyant le conflit en Ukraine, nous avons discut\u00e9 avec Natalya d&#039;Odessa pour entendre parler de son parcours et de ses exp\u00e9riences.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Originaire de la province de Donetsk, l&#039;une des r\u00e9gions les plus durement touch\u00e9es par la guerre, Natalya a 41 ans et enseigne l&#039;histoire de l&#039;art. Elle a fui l\u2019Ukraine avec sa fille suite \u00e0 l\u2019escalade de la guerre dans l\u2019ensemble du pays en f\u00e9vrier 2022. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vivant d\u00e9sormais \u00e0 Barcelone, Natalya est venue nous rencontrer pour discuter au bureau OCC Espagne. C&#039;est son histoire.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quand avez-vous quitt\u00e9 l\u2019Ukraine ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je suis arriv\u00e9 \u00e0 Barcelone avec ma fille le 4 mars, mais j&#039;ai quitt\u00e9 l&#039;Ukraine le lendemain du d\u00e9but de la guerre, le 27 f\u00e9vrier. Depuis Odessa, nous sommes d\u2019abord all\u00e9s \u00e0 Chisinau en Moldavie en voiture. Passer la fronti\u00e8re prend normalement deux heures, mais ce jour-l\u00e0, cela nous a pris 18 heures \u00e0 cause du trafic de personnes en fuite. De l\u00e0, nous avons pris le train jusqu&#039;\u00e0 Yasi en Roumanie pour prendre un avion pour Barcelone avec une escale \u00e0 Vienne.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Mais nous avons eu un probl\u00e8me avec notre chien car il y avait d\u00e9j\u00e0 beaucoup d&#039;animaux appartenant \u00e0 d&#039;autres passagers. Un b\u00e9n\u00e9vole qui \u00e9tait l\u00e0 pour aider les personnes qui traversaient la fronti\u00e8re m&#039;a propos\u00e9 de prendre soin de mon chien pendant que nous voyageions vers un autre endroit. Nous avons donc laiss\u00e9 le chien avec elle et avons pris l&#039;avion pour Vienne.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finalement, notre vol pour Barcelone a \u00e9t\u00e9 retard\u00e9, nous avons donc pu changer nos billets deux jours plus tard afin d&#039;avoir le temps de r\u00e9soudre le probl\u00e8me avec notre chien. La personne qui a chang\u00e9 nos billets \u00e9tait si gentille qu&#039;elle a demand\u00e9 au pilote de l&#039;avion en Roumanie d&#039;emmener le chien avec lui pour que nous puissions tous \u00eatre \u00e0 nouveau ensemble.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Qu\u2019avez-vous ressenti pendant ces jours-l\u00e0 ?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tout \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s intense, \u00e9trange et stressant. Personne ne savait quoi faire. La route d&#039;Odessa \u00e0 Chisinau a \u00e9t\u00e9 emprunt\u00e9e par l&#039;arm\u00e9e, ce qui \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s choquant et effrayant \u00e0 voir.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Certaines des personnes qui ont quitt\u00e9 l&#039;Ukraine avec nous se sont arr\u00eat\u00e9es pour rester quelques mois \u00e0 Chisinau, apr\u00e8s quoi elles sont retourn\u00e9es \u00e0 Odessa. Mais je ne me sentais pas en s\u00e9curit\u00e9 \u00e0 Chisinau et j&#039;ai compris qu&#039;on ne pouvait pas y rester\u2026 C&#039;est alors que nous avons d\u00e9cid\u00e9 d&#039;aller \u00e0 Barcelone. Je ne me suis senti qu&#039;un peu soulag\u00e9 \u00e0 notre arriv\u00e9e \u00e0 Vienne, mais je ne me suis senti pleinement soulag\u00e9 qu&#039;apr\u00e8s trois mois de vie \u00e0 Barcelone.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Comment se sont pass\u00e9s les trois premiers mois ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J&#039;avais encore peur en entendant certains bruits dans la rue, comme des h\u00e9licopt\u00e8res qui volaient, ou des v\u00e9hicules lourds comme des camions poubelles. Ces bruits m&#039;ont rappel\u00e9 les moments de passage de la fronti\u00e8re. Mais apr\u00e8s trois mois \u00e0 Barcelone, j\u2019ai lentement commenc\u00e9 \u00e0 me sentir plus d\u00e9tendu.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En mai, j&#039;ai eu l&#039;occasion de visiter la France avec ma fille, o\u00f9 vit d\u00e9sormais la moiti\u00e9 de ma famille. Le train s&#039;est arr\u00eat\u00e9 dans un village pendant une heure pour que nous puissions sortir et nous promener. Je me souviens que je jouais avec mon enfant dans une cour de r\u00e9cr\u00e9ation quand j&#039;ai entendu une sir\u00e8ne\u2026 J&#039;ai regard\u00e9 autour de moi et tout le monde \u00e9tait normal, mais j&#039;ai eu peur et j&#039;ai m\u00eame pens\u00e9 que la guerre \u00e9tait arriv\u00e9e en France. C&#039;\u00e9tait tr\u00e8s choquant et \u00e9tonnant.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Et comment voyez-vous votre vie ici en Espagne, \u00e0 Barcelone, maintenant ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Six mois repr\u00e9sentent une partie importante de la vie. Mais je ne peux pas dire que Barcelone, ou l&#039;Espagne, seront ma maison pour toujours, et je ne veux pas dire que je ne retournerai jamais en Ukraine. Il est difficile d&#039;exprimer ce que je ressens. En ce moment, le plus important est le bien-\u00eatre de ma fille. Elle est \u00e0 l&#039;\u00e9cole depuis un an et s&#039;est fait des amis. Elle se sent bien ici et insiste pour rester \u00e0 cause de ses amis. Le bien-\u00eatre de ma fille est donc ma priorit\u00e9. Quant \u00e0 moi, je ne peux pas r\u00e9pondre \u00e0 cette question pour le moment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Je suppose qu&#039;il est difficile de penser \u00e0 l&#039;avenir.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oui, depuis le 24 f\u00e9vrier 2022, il est devenu difficile de planifier ou de penser l\u2019avenir. Je ne sais jamais o\u00f9 je vais finir, c&#039;est presque comme flotter sans but. L\u2019occupation russe de notre patrie a tout boulevers\u00e9. Le seul point d\u2019ancrage dont je dispose pour l\u2019avenir est mon contrat de location d\u2019appartement de cinq ans. Je pense donc que je vais probablement rester ici pendant cinq ans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"731\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-1536x1097.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-2048x1463.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ressentez-vous un sentiment de communaut\u00e9 ici ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>J&#039;ai trouv\u00e9 une bonne communaut\u00e9 ici et elle me tient \u00e0 c\u0153ur. Environ 70% des personnes avec qui j&#039;interagis sont \u00e9galement des Ukrainiens temporairement d\u00e9plac\u00e9s vivant \u00e0 Barcelone. Je communique donc principalement avec des compatriotes ukrainiens arriv\u00e9s ici \u00e0 des moments diff\u00e9rents. Cette communaut\u00e9 est importante pour moi car j&#039;ai l&#039;opportunit\u00e9 de poursuivre ma passion pour l&#039;art. Je suis en contact avec la communaut\u00e9 artistique et j&#039;ai pu donner des conf\u00e9rences sur l&#039;art sur une base b\u00e9n\u00e9vole.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quant \u00e0 mon retour en Ukraine, j&#039;aimerais absolument y rendre visite \u00e0 mes amis \u00e0 l&#039;avenir, mais je devrai attendre que ce soit s\u00fbr en raison du danger persistant des mines et d&#039;autres dangers li\u00e9s \u00e0 la guerre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Comment l\u2019art a-t-il jou\u00e9 un r\u00f4le dans votre vie depuis que vous avez quitt\u00e9 l\u2019Ukraine ? \u00c9tait-ce un d\u00e9fi pour vous de cultiver votre passion pour l\u2019art ou d\u2019y travailler ici \u00e0 Barcelone ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L&#039;art a jou\u00e9 un r\u00f4le important dans ma vie. Je suis professeur d&#039;histoire de l&#039;art et j&#039;ai plus de 15 ans d&#039;exp\u00e9rience dans l&#039;industrie des arts, ainsi que trois dipl\u00f4mes diff\u00e9rents dans divers domaines des arts et du design.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u00c0 Barcelone, j&#039;ai collabor\u00e9 avec un directeur de galerie pour lancer des conf\u00e9rences sp\u00e9cifiquement sur l&#039;art et la culture ukrainiennes. Je crois qu\u2019il est essentiel de red\u00e9couvrir et d\u2019appr\u00e9cier l\u2019art ukrainien et l\u2019identit\u00e9 nationale, qui sont devenues encore plus cruciales depuis le d\u00e9but de la guerre.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Les artistes ukrainiens ont souvent \u00e9t\u00e9 form\u00e9s en Europe et partagent donc des liens avec des artistes europ\u00e9ens. Certains artistes ukrainiens c\u00e9l\u00e8bres, comme Kazimir Malevitch et Kandinsky, sont parfois appel\u00e9s \u00e0 tort russes, alors qu&#039;ils sont ukrainiens !<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"731\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12321\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-1536x1097.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-2048x1463.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"731\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-1536x1097.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-2048x1463.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Cet int\u00e9r\u00eat pour l\u2019art ukrainien s\u2019est donc accru apr\u00e8s le d\u00e9but de la guerre ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Oui, apr\u00e8s le d\u00e9but de la guerre, j\u2019ai ressenti le besoin de me concentrer davantage sur l\u2019art et les artistes ukrainiens. Apr\u00e8s le 24 f\u00e9vrier 2022, il y a eu un fort besoin de s\u2019identifier comme Ukrainien et d\u2019appr\u00e9cier notre propre culture et notre histoire. Je crois qu&#039;il est essentiel d&#039;\u00eatre fid\u00e8le \u00e0 nos racines et d&#039;embrasser notre identit\u00e9 ukrainienne.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p><em><strong>L&#039;Ukraine maintenant<\/strong> vise \u00e0 sensibiliser toute l&#039;Europe aux mouvements de r\u00e9fugi\u00e9s apr\u00e8s la diminution de la couverture m\u00e9diatique, afin de d\u00e9velopper de nouvelles approches de communication sur la migration et de faciliter l&#039;inclusion des personnes d\u00e9plac\u00e9es dans les communaut\u00e9s locales. Il regroupe quatre organisations au niveau europ\u00e9en : Mareena (Slovaquie), ARCA (Roumanie), OCC (Gr\u00e8ce) et OCC (Espagne).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Ce projet est cofinanc\u00e9 par l&#039;Union europ\u00e9enne via Erasmus+.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"490\" height=\"103\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12337\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1.png 490w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1-300x63.png 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1-18x4.png 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 490px) 100vw, 490px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-1024x551.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12338\" width=\"164\" height=\"88\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-1024x551.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-300x161.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-768x413.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-600x323.jpg 600w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1.jpg 1298w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 164px) 100vw, 164px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dans le cadre du projet europ\u00e9en \u00ab Ukraine Now \u00bb, qui attire l&#039;attention sur la situation des personnes fuyant le conflit en Ukraine, nous avons discut\u00e9 avec Natalya d&#039;Odessa pour entendre parler de son parcours et de ses exp\u00e9riences.\u00a0<\/p>","protected":false},"author":49,"featured_media":12342,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[75],"tags":[163,126,190],"class_list":["post-12315","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog","tag-conflict","tag-refugees","tag-ukraine","latest_post"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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