{"id":12315,"date":"2023-08-10T13:44:09","date_gmt":"2023-08-10T13:44:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/?p=12315"},"modified":"2023-08-10T14:31:07","modified_gmt":"2023-08-10T14:31:07","slug":"stories-from-ukraine-1-natalya","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/ca\/stories-from-ukraine-1-natalya\/","title":{"rendered":"Hist\u00f2ries d&#039;Ucra\u00efna #1 : Natalya"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Aquest article ha estat desenvolupat per Joana Purves, Thomas Leroux i Emma Santanach.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover is-light\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-cyan-bluish-gray-background-color has-background-dim-30 has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1920\" height=\"1080\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-12333\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1.jpg\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-1536x864.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-350x196.jpg 350w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/After-the-war-started-I-felt-the-need-to-focus-more-on-Ukrainian-art-and-artists-1-600x338.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1920px) 100vw, 1920px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-white-color has-text-color has-large-font-size\"><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Com a part del projecte europeu &quot;Ukraine Now&quot;, que crida l&#039;atenci\u00f3 sobre la situaci\u00f3 de les persones que fugen del conflicte a Ucra\u00efna, ens vam asseure a parlar amb Natalya d&#039;Odessa per con\u00e8ixer el seu viatge i les seves experi\u00e8ncies.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nascut origin\u00e0riament a la prov\u00edncia de Donetsk, una de les regions m\u00e9s afectades per la guerra, Natalya t\u00e9 41 anys i ensenya hist\u00f2ria de l&#039;art. Va fugir d&#039;Ucra\u00efna amb la seva filla despr\u00e9s de l&#039;escalada de la guerra a tota Ucra\u00efna el febrer de 2022. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ara que viu a Barcelona, la Natalya va venir amablement a trobar-nos per xerrar a l&#039;oficina d&#039;OCC Espanya. Aquesta \u00e9s la seva hist\u00f2ria.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Quan vas marxar d&#039;Ucra\u00efna?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Vaig venir a Barcelona amb la meva filla el 4 de mar\u00e7, per\u00f2 vaig sortir d&#039;Ucra\u00efna l&#039;endem\u00e0 de l&#039;inici de la guerra, el 27 de febrer. Des d&#039;Odessa, vam anar primer a Chisinau a Mold\u00e0via amb cotxe. Creuar la frontera sol durar dues hores, per\u00f2 aquell dia ens va costar 18 hores a causa del tr\u00e0nsit de persones que fugien. Des d&#039;all\u00e0, vam anar en tren fins a Yasi a Romania per agafar un avi\u00f3 a Barcelona amb escala a Viena.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Per\u00f2 vam tenir un problema amb el nostre gos perqu\u00e8 ja hi havia molts animals que pertanyien a altres passatgers. Un voluntari que estava all\u00e0 donant suport a la gent que travessava la frontera es va oferir a tenir cura del meu gos mentre viatj\u00e0vem a un altre lloc. Aix\u00ed que vam deixar el gos amb ella i vam pujar a l&#039;avi\u00f3 cap a Viena.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finalment, el nostre vol a Barcelona es va retardar, aix\u00ed que vam poder canviar els bitllets a dos dies m\u00e9s tard per tenir temps per resoldre el problema amb el nostre gos. La persona que ens va canviar el bitllet va ser tan amable que va demanar al pilot de l&#039;avi\u00f3 a Romania que s&#039;emport\u00e9s amb el gos perqu\u00e8 pogu\u00e9ssim estar tots junts de nou.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Com et vas sentir durant aquells dies?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tot era molt intens, estrany i estressant. Ning\u00fa sabia qu\u00e8 fer. La carretera d&#039;Odessa a Chisinau va ser presa per l&#039;ex\u00e8rcit, cosa que va ser molt impactant i espant\u00f3s de veure.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Algunes de les persones que van marxar d&#039;Ucra\u00efna amb nosaltres es van aturar per quedar-se a Chisinau durant uns mesos, despr\u00e9s dels quals van tornar a Odessa. Per\u00f2 no em sentia segur a Chisinau i vaig entendre que no hi pod\u00edem quedar-nos... Va ser llavors quan vam decidir anar a Barcelona. Nom\u00e9s em vaig sentir una mica alleujat quan vam arribar a Viena, per\u00f2 nom\u00e9s despr\u00e9s de tres mesos de vida a Barcelona em vaig sentir completament alleujat.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Com van ser els primers tres mesos?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Encara em sentia espantat quan sentia certs sorolls al carrer, com els helic\u00f2pters volant, o els vehicles pesants com els camions de papereres. Aquests sorolls em van recordar els moments que travessava la frontera. Per\u00f2 despr\u00e9s de tres mesos a Barcelona, a poc a poc vaig comen\u00e7ar a sentir-me m\u00e9s relaxat.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Al maig vaig tenir l&#039;oportunitat de visitar Fran\u00e7a amb la meva filla, on ara viu la meitat de la meva fam\u00edlia. El tren va parar una hora en un poble, aix\u00ed que vam poder sortir a passejar. Recordo que estava jugant amb el meu fill en un pati quan vaig sentir una sirena... Vaig mirar al meu voltant i tothom era normal, per\u00f2 em vaig espantar i fins i tot vaig pensar que la guerra havia arribat a Fran\u00e7a. Va ser molt impactant i sorprenent.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>I com veus la teva vida aqu\u00ed a Espanya, a Barcelona, ara?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sis mesos \u00e9s una part important de la vida. Per\u00f2 no puc dir que Barcelona, o Espanya, ser\u00e0 la meva llar per sempre, i no vull dir que mai tornar\u00e9 a Ucra\u00efna. \u00c9s dif\u00edcil expressar com em sento. Ara mateix, el m\u00e9s important \u00e9s el benestar de la meva filla. Fa un any que va a l&#039;escola i ha fet amics. Se sent b\u00e9 aqu\u00ed i insisteix a quedar-se gr\u00e0cies als seus amics. Per tant, el benestar de la meva filla \u00e9s la meva prioritat. Pel que fa a mi, no puc respondre-ho ara mateix.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Suposo que \u00e9s dif\u00edcil pensar en el futur.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ed, des del 24 de febrer de 2022, s&#039;ha tornat dif\u00edcil planificar o pensar en el futur. Mai s\u00e9 on anir\u00e9 a parar, \u00e9s gaireb\u00e9 com surar sense rumb. L&#039;ocupaci\u00f3 russa de la nostra p\u00e0tria ho va pertorbar tot. L&#039;\u00fanic \u00e0ncora que tinc per al futur \u00e9s el meu contracte de lloguer de pisos de cinc anys. Per tant, crec que probablement em quedar\u00e9 aqu\u00ed cinc anys.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"731\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12320\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-1536x1097.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-2048x1463.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/crdGo7EzALojN2ItH3fdEWo_TUYsPquTdIzfuKX6VgI-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Sentiu un sentit de comunitat aqu\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>He trobat una bona comunitat aqu\u00ed i \u00e9s a prop del meu cor. Al voltant de 70% de les persones amb qui interactuo tamb\u00e9 s\u00f3n ucra\u00efnesos despla\u00e7ats temporalment que viuen a Barcelona. Per tant, em comunico sobretot amb altres ucra\u00efnesos que van arribar aqu\u00ed en diferents moments. Aquesta comunitat \u00e9s important per a mi, ja que tinc l&#039;oportunitat de perseguir la meva passi\u00f3 per l&#039;art. Estic connectat amb la comunitat art\u00edstica i he pogut fer confer\u00e8ncies d&#039;art de manera volunt\u00e0ria.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pel que fa al retorn a Ucra\u00efna, definitivament vull visitar els meus amics all\u00e0 en el futur, per\u00f2 haur\u00e9 d&#039;esperar fins que estigui segur a causa del perill persistent de les mines i altres perills relacionats amb la guerra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Com ha tingut un paper l&#039;art en la teva vida des que vas marxar d&#039;Ucra\u00efna? Va ser un repte per a tu cultivar la teva passi\u00f3 per l&#039;art o treballar-hi aqu\u00ed a Barcelona?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>L&#039;art ha tingut un paper important en la meva vida. S\u00f3c professora d&#039;hist\u00f2ria de l&#039;art i tinc m\u00e9s de 15 anys d&#039;experi\u00e8ncia en la ind\u00fastria de l&#039;art, aix\u00ed com tres graus diferents en diferents camps de les arts i el disseny.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A Barcelona, vaig col\u00b7laborar amb un director de galeria per iniciar confer\u00e8ncies espec\u00edficament sobre l&#039;art i la cultura ucra\u00efnesos. Crec que \u00e9s essencial redescobrir i apreciar l&#039;art ucra\u00efn\u00e8s i la pr\u00f2pia identitat nacional, que s&#039;ha tornat encara m\u00e9s crucial des que va comen\u00e7ar la guerra.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Els artistes ucra\u00efnesos sovint es van educar a Europa, de manera que comparteixen connexions amb artistes europeus. Alguns artistes ucra\u00efnesos famosos com Kazimir Malevich i Kandinsky, de vegades s&#039;anomenen err\u00f2niament russos, per\u00f2 s\u00f3n ucra\u00efnesos!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"731\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12321\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-1536x1097.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-2048x1463.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/96BMlwByNhQpGeq362V0oUukLmfsJU3PvkfZLZN7Ero-1-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"731\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-1024x731.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12322\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-1024x731.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-300x214.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-1536x1097.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-2048x1463.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/mvZKg6dBCN5ElfgpbBQ56-yH-Z8U-jV1E-hbIrGDWng-1-600x429.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Aix\u00ed que aquest inter\u00e8s per l&#039;art ucra\u00efn\u00e8s va cr\u00e9ixer despr\u00e9s de l&#039;inici de la guerra?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>S\u00ed, despr\u00e9s de comen\u00e7ar la guerra, vaig sentir la necessitat de centrar-me m\u00e9s en l&#039;art i els artistes ucra\u00efnesos. Despr\u00e9s del 24 de febrer de 2022, hi va haver un fort desig d&#039;identificar-nos com a ucra\u00efnesos i d&#039;apreciar la nostra pr\u00f2pia cultura i hist\u00f2ria. Crec que \u00e9s essencial ser fidels a les nostres arrels i abra\u00e7ar la nostra identitat ucra\u00efnesa.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-constrained wp-block-group-is-layout-constrained\">\n<p><em><strong>Ucra\u00efna ara<\/strong> pret\u00e9n conscienciar a tota Europa sobre els moviments de refugiats despr\u00e9s de la disminuci\u00f3 de la cobertura medi\u00e0tica, per tal de desenvolupar nous enfocaments de comunicaci\u00f3 sobre la migraci\u00f3 i facilitar la inclusi\u00f3 de les persones despla\u00e7ades a les comunitats locals. Reuneix quatre organitzacions a nivell europeu: Mareena (Eslov\u00e0quia), ARCA (Romania), OCC (Gr\u00e8cia) i OCC (Espanya).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Aquest projecte est\u00e0 cofinan\u00e7at per la Uni\u00f3 Europea a trav\u00e9s d&#039;Erasmus+.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"490\" height=\"103\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12337\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1.png 490w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1-300x63.png 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/cofunded-by-EU-1-18x4.png 18w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 490px) 100vw, 490px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-1024x551.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-12338\" width=\"164\" height=\"88\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-1024x551.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-300x161.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-768x413.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1-600x323.jpg 600w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/08\/logo-farebne-1.jpg 1298w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 164px) 100vw, 164px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:25px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Com a part del projecte europeu &quot;Ukraine Now&quot;, que crida l&#039;atenci\u00f3 sobre la situaci\u00f3 de les persones que fugen del conflicte a Ucra\u00efna, ens vam asseure a parlar amb Natalya d&#039;Odessa per con\u00e8ixer el seu viatge i les seves experi\u00e8ncies.\u00a0<\/p>","protected":false},"author":49,"featured_media":12342,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_themeisle_gutenberg_block_has_review":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[75],"tags":[163,126,190],"class_list":["post-12315","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-blog","tag-conflict","tag-refugees","tag-ukraine","latest_post"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.4 - 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