{"id":11343,"date":"2022-10-18T11:30:37","date_gmt":"2022-10-18T11:30:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/?p=11343"},"modified":"2022-10-18T11:30:37","modified_gmt":"2022-10-18T11:30:37","slug":"leaving-greece-and-then-what","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/ca\/leaving-greece-and-then-what\/","title":{"rendered":"Sortint de Gr\u00e8cia, i despr\u00e9s qu\u00e8?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Avui, dos nens afganesos que porten diversos anys assistint als nostres espais estaven de festa als carrers del petit poble de Polykastro. Van c\u00f3rrer cap als voluntaris amb els bra\u00e7os oberts cridant &quot;Profe, anem a Alemanyayyyy!&quot;. L&#039;ambient estava ple d&#039;abra\u00e7ades, \u00e0nims i celebraci\u00f3, per\u00f2 l&#039;emoci\u00f3 es va esvair en una expressi\u00f3 de nost\u00e0lgia quan un d&#039;ells va dir: &quot;Trobarem a faltar OCC&quot;. Aquesta sent\u00e8ncia estava carregada d&#039;incertesa i preguntes sense resposta: Com ser\u00e0 tornar a canviar de pa\u00eds? Com recrearan els seus pares una aparen\u00e7a d&#039;estabilitat a les seves vides? Com ser\u00e0 tornar a comen\u00e7ar: sentir-se desorientat, traslladat d&#039;una comissaria a una altra i d&#039;un camp de refugiats a un altre sense con\u00e8ixer ning\u00fa? Per\u00f2, sobretot, com ser\u00e0 comen\u00e7ar de nou el proc\u00e9s de sol\u00b7licitud d&#039;asil en un nou pa\u00eds?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>De fet, les darreres setmanes a Polykastro han estat plenes de canvis. Moltes fam\u00edlies que havien estat esperant durant anys per completar el seu proc\u00e9s d&#039;asil a Gr\u00e8cia reben protecci\u00f3 internacional o estatus de refugiat juntament amb el seu document de viatge. Aquest \u00faltim funciona com un passaport per\u00f2 nom\u00e9s \u00e9s un perm\u00eds que els permet viatjar a l&#039;estranger durant un m\u00e0xim de 3 mesos. Un cop finalitzada la sol\u00b7licitud d&#039;asil, poden romandre a Gr\u00e8cia legalment. Despr\u00e9s de 7 anys de viure cont\u00ednuament en aquest pa\u00eds, tamb\u00e9 poden sol\u00b7licitar la ciutadania. Per tant, sembla que aquest \u00e9s el final de l&#039;esgotador viatge migratori, per\u00f2 en realitat no ho \u00e9s; \u00e9s nom\u00e9s un pas m\u00e9s en un cam\u00ed ple de reptes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:15px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"580\" src=\"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-1024x580.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-11349\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-1024x580.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-300x170.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-768x435.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-1536x870.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-18x10.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview-600x340.jpg 600w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/Interview.jpg 1872w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/><figcaption>Els nostres voluntaris de l&#039;ESC Flavia i Juan van entrevistar alguns dels residents de Nea Kavala i Polykastro que van arribar a Alemanya i Fran\u00e7a.\u00a0<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Gr\u00e8cia no d\u00f3na a aquestes persones l&#039;oportunitat de construir-se una vida digna per elles mateixes: tan bon punt reben els documents, es queden sense cap tipus de subvenci\u00f3 ni ajut i es veuen privats del seu espai al camp de refugiats on vivien. S&#039;espera que esdevinguin ciutadans corrents com si de la nit al dia tinguessin les eines per ser aut\u00f2noms a Gr\u00e8cia. Un pa\u00eds on fins aleshores vivien confinats entre els murs dels camps de refugiats, sovint en condicions extremadament dif\u00edcils i sense cap possibilitat d&#039;emancipaci\u00f3 de l&#039;ajuda humanit\u00e0ria. Reconeixent la import\u00e0ncia d&#039;aquests problemes, Fran\u00e7a, Su\u00efssa i Alemanya donen la benvinguda a persones que han obtingut documents per tornar a sol\u00b7licitar asil dins de les seves fronteres. De fet, a difer\u00e8ncia de Gr\u00e8cia, aquests pa\u00efsos continuen donant suport a les persones despr\u00e9s d&#039;obtenir l&#039;estatut de refugiat, fins que troben una feina que els permeti pagar la seva vida.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Aix\u00f2 fa que les fam\u00edlies facin un altre gran pas: traslladar-se a un d&#039;aquests pa\u00efsos renunciant als seus documents grecs i comen\u00e7ar de nou el llarg i ardu proc\u00e9s de sol\u00b7licitud d&#039;asil. Aix\u00f2 implica passar per les llargues i extenuants entrevistes que tornen a obrir ferides i traumes passats i que sovint es fan en un ambient de desconfian\u00e7a. Aquesta vegada hauran de resseguir els motius que els van portar a fugir del seu pa\u00eds afegint els que els van emp\u00e8nyer a abandonar Gr\u00e8cia, per tal de demostrar que poden tenir dret a la protecci\u00f3 internacional d&#039;aquest nou pa\u00eds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Exposats a aquesta realitat, vam comen\u00e7ar a parlar amb fam\u00edlies que estaven a punt de marxar o que ja havien arribat al seu nou dest\u00ed. Depenent de cada persona i de la seva edat, els seus sentiments sobre marxar s\u00f3n diferents. Generalitzant, per als adults aconseguir una cosa que fa anys que esperaven \u00e9s sobretot alleujar. Mentre que per als nens, predomina la por a moure&#039;s i la tristesa per deixar els seus amics. En els adolescents, percebem sentiments contradictoris: alleujament per poder fer un pas endavant i, d&#039;altra banda, nerviosisme i por d&#039;enfrontar-se a una nova realitat i tornar a passar pel proc\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Reiniciant a Alemanya i Fran\u00e7a<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pel que fa a qui ja ha marxat de Gr\u00e8cia, hem tingut l&#039;oportunitat de parlar amb Shakiba* i Sana*, dues dones de 19 anys d&#039;Afganistan i Ali*, un noi de 28 anys de S\u00edria. Ara es troben a Alemanya i Fran\u00e7a, respectivament.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"940\" height=\"788\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-11344\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1.jpg\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1.jpg 940w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1-768x644.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1-14x12.jpg 14w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/1-600x503.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size\">Shakiba: &quot;L&#039;\u00fanic que t\u00e9 un sentiment diferent entre Gr\u00e8cia i aqu\u00ed \u00e9s m\u00e9s sobre l&#039;esperan\u00e7a per al meu futur, vull dir estudiar i tenir feina&quot;<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>La Shakiba va passar 3 anys al campament de Nea Kavala, al costat de Polykastro, amb la seva fam\u00edlia, i fa 4 mesos que estan a Alemanya. La Sana va deixar Nea Kavala amb la seva mare fa nom\u00e9s un mes. Les dues dones ens van explicar qu\u00e8 passa quan arriben a Alemanya, a partir de les seves pr\u00f2pies experi\u00e8ncies: ja sigui en una estaci\u00f3 de tren o en un aeroport, la policia les atura i els pregunta si nom\u00e9s estan de pas o volen quedar-se. Quan manifesten la seva intenci\u00f3 de demanar protecci\u00f3 internacional (o el reconeixement de la condici\u00f3 de refugiat), com a d\u00e9j\u00e0 vu comen\u00e7a el proc\u00e9s: la policia s&#039;emporta els documents grecs, els pren les empremtes dactilars i examina cada detall sobre ells. Tots dos ens van dir que van passar moltes hores amb la policia.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Per exemple, la fam\u00edlia de Shakiba es va quedar atrapada a l&#039;estaci\u00f3 de Schwerin de 14 a 23 hores mentre la Sana i la seva mare estaven a Hamburg de 10 a 23 hores. Despr\u00e9s van ser acompanyades a un camp de refugiats, segons la disponibilitat. Shakiba va ser immediatament registrada en un campament a 170 km de Schwerin, mentre la Sana i la seva mare estaven esperant ser col\u00b7locades en un campament i van ser traslladades a una habitaci\u00f3 d&#039;hotel a Munic entre altres sol\u00b7licitants d&#039;asil que van arribar a Alemanya al mateix temps. Durant aquest per\u00edode d&#039;espera, Sana va descriure com passa els seus dies: al vest\u00edbul de l&#039;hotel, passejant i intentant aprendre alemany a YouTube.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tot i que Shakiba porta m\u00e9s temps a Alemanya, tamb\u00e9 est\u00e0 esperant. En el seu cas, a l&#039;espera d&#039;incloure&#039;s en el sistema escolar o de poder fer cursos d&#039;alemany. Per als menors de 18 anys (com els seus 3 germans), la inclusi\u00f3 a l&#039;educaci\u00f3 p\u00fablica \u00e9s immediata. Aix\u00ed doncs, mentrestant, igual que Sana, Shakiba estudia des de Youtube. La seva fam\u00edlia ja va ser entrevistada sobre la seva vida a Gr\u00e8cia i ara est\u00e0 pendent de ser q\u00fcestionada sobre el que van viure al llarg de la seva vida abans d&#039;arribar a Gr\u00e8cia. Mentre parlava amb Shakiba, va notar el nostre optimisme pel que fa al temps d&#039;espera i va explicar que no hi ha manera de saber quant de temps hauran d&#039;esperar. Probablement anys. Per exemple, la fam\u00edlia que viu al costat d&#039;ells al camp de refugiats fa 2 anys que l&#039;espera.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Comunicar-nos amb persones que estan passant o han passat per aquest cam\u00ed augmenta la nostra consci\u00e8ncia sobre quants anys de la seva vida es passen a l&#039;espera interminable de decisions pol\u00edtiques i processos burocr\u00e0tics. I en un estat constant d&#039;incertesa i inestabilitat. Passen anys crucials per al creixement dels infants i adolescents sense que puguin seguir un cam\u00ed escolar continu, conrear una passi\u00f3 o afici\u00f3, i teixir relacions estables i duradores.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Quan li vam preguntar a Shakiba si Alemanya va estar a l&#039;altura de les seves expectatives, va respondre &quot;s\u00ed&quot; i despr\u00e9s va afegir: &quot;No puc dir que quan vam arribar aqu\u00ed la situaci\u00f3 fos perfecta. S\u00ed, va ser una mica millor que a Gr\u00e8cia, per\u00f2 a tot arreu hi ha diferents dificultats per afrontar. L&#039;\u00fanic que t\u00e9 un sentiment diferent entre Gr\u00e8cia i aqu\u00ed \u00e9s m\u00e9s sobre l&#039;esperan\u00e7a per al meu futur, vull dir estudiar i tenir feina\u201d. Tant ella com Sana es consideren afortunats d&#039;haver marxat de Gr\u00e8cia. No obstant aix\u00f2, ens van explicar com d&#039;esgotador era cada vegada haver de moure&#039;s. Cada vegada que comen\u00e7aven a acostumar-se a estar en un lloc, havien de marxar de nou a un altre pa\u00eds on tot \u00e9s diferent: les lleis que els afecten, la llengua, el clima, etc. I cada vegada, han de tornar a esperar anys per una oportunitat real de construir una vida estable i digna que tot \u00e9sser hum\u00e0 hauria de tenir.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover\"><span aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-cover__background has-background-dim\"><\/span><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"940\" height=\"788\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-11345\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2.jpg\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2.jpg 940w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2-300x251.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2-768x644.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2-14x12.jpg 14w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/10\/2-600x503.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 940px) 100vw, 940px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size\">Quan li vam preguntar a l&#039;Al\u00ed qu\u00e8 era el m\u00e9s valu\u00f3s mentre passava per tot aix\u00f2, va respondre &quot;els meus amics&quot;.<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Ali, que despr\u00e9s de passar 3 anys a Gr\u00e8cia fa 8 mesos que est\u00e0 a Ni\u00e7a, ens va explicar una experi\u00e8ncia semblant de les dues dones. Tanmateix, la principal difer\u00e8ncia amb Alemanya \u00e9s que no hi ha camps de refugiats a Fran\u00e7a. Els sol\u00b7licitants d&#039;asil reben l&#039;assist\u00e8ncia de la societat civil (ONG) en lloc de les autoritats governamentals. A la videotrucada amb l&#039;Ali, vam poder veure la casa on viu. Va explicar que hi ha moltes ONG implicades en la recerca d&#039;allotjament per a joves a les cases de fam\u00edlies franceses disposades a ajudar. Tamb\u00e9 est\u00e0 a l&#039;espera de completar el proc\u00e9s de sol\u00b7licitud d&#039;asil. Li agrada Fran\u00e7a i se sent m\u00e9s acceptat all\u00e0 que a Gr\u00e8cia perqu\u00e8 la societat \u00e9s multicultural. Escoltant la seva hist\u00f2ria, el seu viatge migratori va comen\u00e7ar el 2014 i va passar per S\u00edria, Jord\u00e0nia, Turquia i Gr\u00e8cia, ens vam adonar que quan la gent es veu obligada a viure dia a dia, l&#039;ajuda d&#039;una persona de confian\u00e7a pot canviar la seva vida. De fet, quan li vam preguntar qu\u00e8 era el m\u00e9s valu\u00f3s mentre passava per tot aix\u00f2, va respondre &quot;els meus amics&quot;. \u00c9s a dir, la xarxa social \u00e9s un canal de flux d&#039;informaci\u00f3 i suport vital, \u00e9s un element essencial a tenir en compte per entendre els camins i les implicacions de la vida dels migrants. Aix\u00ed mateix, Shakiba ho va confirmar quan li vam preguntar si a Alemanya hi havia alguna cosa inesperada o decebedora per a ella: \u201cPer a nosaltres, no hi va haver cap cosa o situaci\u00f3 inesperada perqu\u00e8, parlant amb gent que coneixem, \u00e9rem conscients de totes les condicions dels refugiats. aqu\u00ed, potser no tot, per\u00f2 almenys 50%\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Des d&#039;una perspectiva pol\u00edtica, aquestes hist\u00f2ries mostren com la legislaci\u00f3 que ofereix un sistema robust d&#039;acollida i inclusi\u00f3 pot afectar les vides humanes i les vies migrat\u00f2ries. Aix\u00ed mateix, revelen la difer\u00e8ncia entre un reconeixement formal i un reconeixement substantiu dels drets humans. De fet, \u00e9s cert que Gr\u00e8cia concedeix el dret d&#039;asil a les persones refugiades per\u00f2 despr\u00e9s no els permet beneficiar-se d&#039;aquest dret.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Finalment, hi ha una frase de l&#039;escriptor Warsan Shire que hem de tenir en compte a l&#039;hora d&#039;intentar entendre les opcions arriscades dels migrants i el seu coratge per comen\u00e7ar una vegada i una altra, sense saber ni si ens portar\u00e0 a una decisi\u00f3 positiva: \u201cno un posa els seus fills en una barca a menys que el mar sigui m\u00e9s segur que la terra\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>*S&#039;han canviat els noms per motius de protecci\u00f3<\/em>.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Aquests darrers dies a Polykastro han estat plens de canvis: moltes fam\u00edlies que feia anys que esperaven completar el seu proc\u00e9s d&#039;asil reben protecci\u00f3 internacional o estatus de refugiat i marxen Gr\u00e8cia. 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