{"id":10313,"date":"2021-09-10T16:59:08","date_gmt":"2021-09-10T16:59:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/?p=10313"},"modified":"2021-09-10T16:59:08","modified_gmt":"2021-09-10T16:59:08","slug":"interview-with-anandamaya-arno-from-caracas-to-barcelona","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/ar\/interview-with-anandamaya-arno-from-caracas-to-barcelona\/","title":{"rendered":"\u062d\u0648\u0627\u0631 \u0645\u0639 \u0623\u0646\u0627\u0646\u062f\u0627\u0645\u0627\u064a\u0627 \u0623\u0631\u0646\u0648: \u0645\u0646 \u0643\u0627\u0631\u0627\u0643\u0627\u0633 \u0625\u0644\u0649 \u0628\u0631\u0634\u0644\u0648\u0646\u0629"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-normal-font-size\"><strong>Anandamaya Arno is a MigraCode graduate from Venezuela, who has been hired as a web developer at FreeNow since January 2021. <a href=\"https:\/\/migracode.occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">MigraCode<\/a>, a free coding school for migrants and refugees, is one of Open Cultural Center\u2019s main projects in Barcelona.&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-black-color has-text-color has-normal-font-size\"><strong>\u0647\u0630\u0647 \u0647\u064a \u0642\u0635\u0629 \u0643\u064a\u0641 \u063a\u0627\u062f\u0631\u062a \u0623\u0646\u0627\u0646\u062f\u0627\u060c \u0643\u0645\u0627 \u064a\u0646\u0627\u062f\u064a\u0647\u0627 \u0623\u0635\u062f\u0642\u0627\u0624\u0647\u0627 \u0627\u0644\u0645\u0642\u0631\u0628\u0648\u0646 \u0648\u0639\u0627\u0626\u0644\u062a\u0647\u0627\u060c \u0643\u0627\u0631\u0627\u0643\u0627\u0633 \u0648\u0627\u0646\u062a\u0642\u0644\u062a \u0625\u0644\u0649 \u0628\u0631\u0634\u0644\u0648\u0646\u0629\u060c \u0648\u0643\u064a\u0641 \u062a\u063a\u064a\u0631 \u062a\u0639\u0631\u064a\u0641\u0647\u0627 \u0644\u0645\u0639\u0646\u0649 &quot;\u0627\u0644\u0648\u0636\u0639 \u0627\u0644\u062c\u064a\u062f&quot; \u0637\u0648\u0627\u0644 \u0647\u0630\u0647 \u0627\u0644\u0639\u0645\u0644\u064a\u0629.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anandamaya tells us that studying in Venezuela was \u2018crazy\u2019: \u201cthe professors always go on strike, there is no money to pay them and the conditions are so bad\u201d. Due to the fact that many of her professors moved abroad to find better opportunities, Anandamaya explains that there was simply no one to teach classes, which prevented her from continuing to study and finish her course.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10339\" width=\"768\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-90x60.jpg 90w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0406-135x90.jpg 135w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><figcaption>\u0627\u0644\u0635\u0648\u0631\u0629: Open Cultural Center<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>As her university education was cut short, Ananda unfortunately didn\u2019t get around to studying programming in her degree, even though she really wanted to. Instead, she learnt everything by herself and found a remote job making web pages for a Spanish company, but the salary was very low. \u201cI was excited to work for a Spanish company, but they only paid me 50 USD per month. As a beginner on the job market. I didn\u2019t know what to do\u201d, says Ananda. She continues explaining that she found out she wasn\u2019t the only Venezuelan working for that company who wasn\u2019t receiving a proper wage. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-style-large is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\"><p>Everything in Venezuela has gone downhill, no one can imagine how people even live there, and the situation was already complicated before.<\/p><cite>Anandamaya.<\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p>However, even though Anandamaya\u2019s sister moved to Spain seven or eight years ago and tried to convince her to move too, Ananda didn\u2019t want to. \u201cMy sister kept telling me to come to Spain, but I still felt comfortable in Venezuela.\u201d Ananda found a new job working as a virtual assistant. \u201cThey paid me 5 USD per hour, which was crazy for me in comparison to what I\u2019d been earning before. I felt like a millionaire!\u201d At the time, Ananda was living with her boyfriend and they both wanted to stay in Venezuela, where the minimum salary was 2 or 3 USD. \u201cOf course you can\u2019t live on that, but people do. They live day by day, and manage to survive more or less. People can\u2019t afford to buy meat, they eat vegetables and things like cereals and grains. The government was giving food boxes to people with flour, rice and beans.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Partly because of this, Ananda and her boyfriend knew they weren\u2019t doing badly in comparison to others. After all, they could afford to go to the supermarket and buy the food they wanted. They also stayed because, other than Ananda\u2019s sister who was already in Spain, all their family was in Venezuela and, without qualifications, they didn\u2019t know what they would be able to do in Spain and how they would find a proper job.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But life in Venezuela became more and more complicated. In March 2019, Ananda was offered a job from a Ukrainian company, working remotely in customer support, earning 800 USD. She felt she had everything she needed, and then there was a nationwide blackout. \u201cVenezuela already had a lot of problems with electricity in the countryside, but it had never happened like that in the capital\u201d, says Ananda. \u201cIn Caracas you could sometimes be without electricity for a couple of hours, but this time it was three whole days without electricity, and seven days in the countryside.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-9d6595d7 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-1024x683.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10329\" width=\"768\" height=\"512\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-600x400.jpg 600w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-90x60.jpg 90w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0375-135x90.jpg 135w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><figcaption>\u0627\u0644\u0635\u0648\u0631\u0629: Open Cultural Center<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:25%\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>At first, Ananda and her family were worried about not being able to charge their phones. Then they became concerned about the freezer defrosting, and losing all their food, which was difficult to come by in the first place. After a while, there was very little they could do. Ananda says that it was really scary on a psychological level. \u201cWithout the internet, TV, we didn\u2019t know what was going on and everyone was scared that a bomb would drop. We didn\u2019t know what was going to happen the next day, and there were rumours about raids.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ananda tried to get in touch with the company as she was supposed to start working that week. She explained that she hadn\u2019t had electricity for 12 hours, but they said they needed someone with a stable internet connection. \u201cOf course I understood that they needed an employee with stability, and at the time I didn\u2019t have that. So I lost the opportunity because of something that was completely out of my control.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Despite all this, it was only when her father\u2019s health started deteriorating that Ananda was forced to make the decision to leave. \u201cThe doctors told him it was kidney problems, and he needed dialisis, but the sessions were really expensive. 200 USD per session, and he had to do 3 sessions per week. There was no way we could afford that.\u201d So she, her boyfriend and her father travelled to Spain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When they arrived, they moved in with Ananda\u2019s sister and her partner. At that time, her sister was heavily pregnant. It was a very small flat for five people, and Ananda and her boyfriend slept in the living room. They started looking for job opportunities immediately. Ananda explains that they weren\u2019t at all planning to study: \u201cMy boyfriend studied Metallurgical Engineering, nothing to do with coding. Our plan was just to come here and try and find work, as virtual assistants or waiters or whatever really.\u201d But then they found a flyer for a coding programme that was specifically for migrants and people in their situation. \u201cThat\u2019s how we first heard about MigraCode\u201d, says Ananda. And they decided to apply.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-cover has-background-dim\" style=\"min-height:281px;aspect-ratio:unset;\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2560\" height=\"1707\" class=\"wp-block-cover__image-background wp-image-10323\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/open-cultural-center-may-2.local\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-scaled.jpg\" data-object-fit=\"cover\" srcset=\"https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-scaled.jpg 2560w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-1024x683.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-1536x1024.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-2048x1365.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-18x12.jpg 18w, https:\/\/occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/09\/IMG_0388-600x400.jpg 600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2560px) 100vw, 2560px\" \/><div class=\"wp-block-cover__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-cover-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-medium-font-size\"> If you would like to find out about Anandamaya\u2019s experience at MigraCode, more of this interview will soon be posted on the <a href=\"https:\/\/migracode.occ.vsgconsulting.eu\/category\/blog\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">MigraCode blog<\/a>. <\/p>\n<\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n<div style=\"height:20px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Ananda is one of many Venezuelan refugees who did not want to leave her home country. She and her family survived the power outages and food shortages, but ultimately they were forced to leave for her father to receive medical treatment for his illness. Ananda says she thought she was \u201cfine\u201d before, but since moving to Spain she now understands what it means: \u201cThis is being fine, being able to feel safe and plan things. 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